I do not even have an account with Turbo Squid, I'm selling the models here on CGTrader only. I got a personal website which I am selling them at, makes no sense.
Where are my Ford brand 3D models?..
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Okay so is it just me or are my Ford brand 3D models getting deleted from my store front? I uploaded a personally created 3D model of a Shelby Daytona (two versions of it), a Ford Mustang GT-R and a Ford Shelby concept car and all of them are gone.... What's the deal here, I didn't get an email or warning or anything about this action so why aren't my models on my account and selling?
Where did my models go and why were they removed?!
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It would be nice if you let people know about that, can't say I read anything about that kind of thing on this website except on Turbo Squid, but this isn't Turbo Squid now is it.
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I highly doubt that cgtrader or any other marketplace will have publicly available list of "hostile" IP owners, because technically you are not allowed to sell any branded products without permission from IP owners. We can consider ourselves as lucky ones, as still relatively few companies actively defends their IP.
It's no secret that you can't sell here anything related to bmw, ford, red bull, fiskars as your models will be taken down sooner rather than later, but that doesn't mean that other brands are safe - you can never know when particular company will decide that they don't like that people are earning money from their IP without sharing revenue with them.
I thought copyright was trying to sell a replica of the same thing, 3D models aren't physical items. But Ford, BMW, Pontiac - whatever other brand you want to mention are. A 3D model looks the same as a physical item but it is not that physical item and what you can do with that physical item you can't do it with a 3D model at all so I do not know how copyright goes here. Along with that, I am selling something that I personally created, a 3D model which I made. Ford doesn't make 3D models at all so there's that too. Only place I see with this Ford issue is at Turbo Squid and now here on CGTrader, all that makes me want to do is sell them somewhere else. What is more hilarious is how you just remove the logos of anything and all of a sudden it is fine to do whatever with it. Take video games like Burn Out which have practically exact replicas of cars, but give them their own logos or totally removes the logos... Yeah, great copyrighting policies I guess.
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@climax, copyrights extends far beyond the boundaries of physical item. Or do you think that books, movies, music and so on can't be copyrighted and you're free to do with them what you want?
"Along with that, I am selling something that I personally created, a 3D model which I made." - you may have ownership and authorship of that particular 3d model, but that doesn't mean that you will be able to copyright it. If you made a copy of ford mustang, that means you already violated the law, because ford owns all rights to its design and you are NOT allowed to copy it without permission.
"Ford doesn't make 3D models at all so there's that too." - you don't want to say that if ford would decide to make and sell 3d models of its cars, they would have to ask your permission to do so, just because you have already created such model, don't you? :]
"Only place I see with this Ford issue is at Turbo Squid and now here on CGTrader, all that makes me want to do is sell them somewhere else." - AFAIK ford made exclusive agreement with turbosquid and that means that if you want to sell ford branded 3d models, the only place where you can do that legally is turbosquid. Not cgtrader and not your own website.
"What is more hilarious is how you just remove the logos of anything and all of a sudden it is fine to do whatever with it. Take video games like Burn Out which have practically exact replicas of cars, but give them their own logos or totally removes the logos..." - no, that's not fine. Copyright goes far beyond logos. If you want to sell your model legally you have to change it beyond recognition (within reasonable limits). Cars in games like burnouts or gta only resembles real forld branded vehicles, but are distinctive enough to not get its owners in trouble. If you think that you can remove logos from your mustang, rename it to fork mustache and feel perfectly safe, then you have to think again.
So I guess you can not create your own Star Trek story in a blog post because you do not own the Star Trek series?... I do not believe you understand my point, I'm done.
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@Eduardas
Make please some system that inform sellers about removing models and make publish list of brand names that we can't publish.
I remember when you removed my Ikea models, and i was sitting and thinking, wtf where models? Maybe i didn't uploaded them .. but later i got info that you remove all Ikea models.
That's definitely something to improve,I'm adding this in my to do list.
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yes, i am seeing on cgtrader, all bmw, ford, ferrari and bmw models are getting down without any notification.
I think they shout persist in list as deleted, so that we can see which model is up and which are down.
but cgtrader doesn't allow to list all deleted models.
:(
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